{"id":887,"date":"2019-07-10T13:35:59","date_gmt":"2019-07-10T13:35:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.beterit.nl\/?p=887"},"modified":"2020-02-19T13:45:44","modified_gmt":"2020-02-19T13:45:44","slug":"bow-down-microsoft","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beterit.nl\/?p=887","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Hippie GPL rubbish!&#8221; vs How times changes things."},"content":{"rendered":"\r\n\r\n\r\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">2001- Microsoft&#8217;s Steve <em>Ballmer: &#8216;Linux is a cancer&#8217; It contaminates all other software with Hippie GPL rubbish<\/em><\/h3>\r\n<h3>\r\n\r\n<\/h3>\r\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">\r\n\r\n<\/h3>\r\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">2019- Microsoft: Hey friends, can we join the official linux-distros mailing list, plz?<\/h3>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>Microsoft&#8217;s transformation into a fully paid-up member of the Linux love-train continued this week as the Windows giant sought to join the exclusive club that is the official linux-distros mailing list.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>The\u00a0purpose\u00a0of the\u00a0linux-distros\u00a0list is used by Linux distributions to privately report, coordinate, and discuss security issues yet to reach the general public;\u00a0oss-security\u00a0is there for stuff that is already out in the open or cannot wait for things to bounce around for a few days first.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>Sasha Levin, who describes himself as a &#8220;Linux kernel hacker&#8221; at the beast of Redmond,\u00a0made the application\u00a0for his employer to join the list, which if approved would allow Microsoft to tap into private behind-the-scenes chatter about vulnerabilities, patches, and ongoing security issues with the open-source kernel and related code. These discussions are crucial for getting an early heads up, and coordinating the handling and deployment of fixes before they are made public.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>To demonstrate that Microsoft qualifies for membership alongside the likes of Ubuntu, Debian, and SUSE, he cited Microsoft&#8217;s Azure Sphere and the Windows Subsystem For Linux (WSL) 2 as examples of distro-like builds.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>Azure Sphere\u00a0is Microsoft&#8217;s take on edge computing, with its own flavor of Linux running on Arm-based hardware. It has, however, resolutely remained in preview.\u00a0WSL<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.co.uk\/2019\/06\/13\/wsl_2\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"> 2<\/a>, also in preview, is based on a tweaked version of the Linux 4.19 kernel and took a bow for Windows Insiders earlier in June. Levin reckons it will be generally available in 2020 (so its official release won&#8217;t coincide with the\u00a0increasingly mythical 19H2\u00a0build of Windows 10.)<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>Levin went on to highlight that Microsoft has plenty of users not employed by the Windows giant, its Linux builds aren&#8217;t based on someone else&#8217;s distribution and, of course, it contributes to the community.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>Current Redmond top man Satya Nadella: \u2018Microsoft LOVES Linux\u2019<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>Levin has indeed been an active member of the community. A glance at the changelog for the 5.0.15 Linux kernel is peppered with his sign-offs, often along with Greg Kroah-Hartman, a fellow at the Linux Foundation. It was therefore not surprising to see Kroah-Hartman vouch for Levin. Kroah-Hartman pointed out that Levin has full write permissions to the stable kernel trees, and applauded Microsoft&#8217;s application to sign up.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>Microsoft would join such Linux luminaries as Google&#8217;s Chrome OS team and Red Hat on the list. Penguinistas concerned that the number-two cloud flinger&#8217;s appearance is a sign of the creeping corporatisation of the Linux world&#8217;s once carefree free-for-all would be well advised to note that another kindly, caring software giant, Oracle, also has representatives on the list. And don&#8217;t forget: most Linux kernel development is done by engineers working at organizations like IBM-gobbled Red Hat, Intel, and the Linux Foundation these days, anyway.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>It is indeed a measure of how far Microsoft, famed for jealously guarding its software secrets and once describing LINUX as a cancer, has come that it has the distro chops to qualify for lists dedicated to dealing with security issues affecting open source software.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>\u201cWhat were seeing here is that Microsoft wants access to early security alerts on Linux,\u201d said open-source pioneer Bruce Perens, in a phone call with\u00a0<em>The Register<\/em>\u00a0on Thursday. \u201cThat\u2019s why specifically they\u2019re asking to be on this list. They\u2019re joining it as a Linux distributor because that\u2019s how it\u2019s structured. Microsoft obviously has a lot of Linux plays, and it\u2019s their responsibility to fix known security bugs as quickly as other Linux distributors.\u201d<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>Perens said he would expect large cloud providers to do the same if they haven\u2019t already. \u201cI would expect Chrome OS has the same kinds of problems,\u201d he said.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.co.uk\/2019\/06\/27\/microsoft_linux_distro_list\/\" target=\"New&quot;\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Source<\/a><\/div>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.co.uk\/2001\/06\/02\/ballmer_linux_is_a_cancer\/\" target=\"NEW&quot;\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Steve Ballmer: &#8216;Linux is a cancer&#8217; <\/a><\/div>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>2001- Microsoft&#8217;s Steve Ballmer: &#8216;Linux is a cancer&#8217; It contaminates all other software with Hippie GPL rubbish 2019- Microsoft: Hey friends, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":895,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-887","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-blog"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/beterit.nl\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Untitled.png","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beterit.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/887","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beterit.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beterit.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beterit.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beterit.nl\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=887"}],"version-history":[{"count":13,"href":"https:\/\/www.beterit.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/887\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1035,"href":"https:\/\/www.beterit.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/887\/revisions\/1035"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beterit.nl\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/895"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.beterit.nl\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=887"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beterit.nl\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=887"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.beterit.nl\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=887"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}